The Socratic Dialogue :A demand for original and imaginative thinking Sebastiaan Jansen
Self-growth and the indispensable role of the others
Socratic Dialogue and Inner-Transformation
The general course of the Socratic Dialogue
In this paper it is by no means my intention to write a hand out for practical application of
the “Socratic Dialogue”. There are more than a dozen reasons for not doing so, but perhaps the
most important one, because the Socratic Dialogue as the word ‘dialogue’ already suggests is all
Having acknowledged its essential practical nature, it follows that the form of the Socratic
Dialogue itself (although rigid in theory as I will discuss later) is under constant reconstruction,
reshaping itself through the creative and imaginative powers of its active participants. It is
precisely this active and decisive role the participant plays within the Socratic Dialogue that
induces the participant to actually undergo a philosophical experience through it.
Now what exactly do we mean by a philosophical experience? Nothing out of the ordinary I
would say, in the end all human experience could be defined as philosophical in nature. For an
experience itself is neither a fact nor a blueprint of the moment, it reshapes itself constantly by
means of our imagination. What makes the actual experience of a Socratic dialogue philosophical
is that we deliberately apply the power of imagination as a tool for investigation. By taking our
common daily experience as our starting point, we collectively inquire into life-questions of a
moral nature. Reformulating partial answer’s while harmonizing oneself in relation to the
specific and unique conditions within the given group of participants.
Self-growth and the indispensable role of the others
Within the setting of a ‘multiple-dialogue’, the Socratic dialogue provides a broad range of
opportunities to confront and enrich one self. The process likens that of washing potatoes;
rubbing each skin against the other they are all pealed and clean in the end.
Throughout the course of the Socratic Dialogue each participant is required to confidently
display his/her opinion without discrimination. Highly valued and welcomed for the moment
ones uttered opinion should not function as an end station. And by no means should it be
regarded as a dogmatic truth that should be defended throughout eternity. No matter how
flattering and overwhelming one’s opinion might be, in the process of the Socratic Dialogue one
should let go off the fear of entering a stage of genuine doubt and wonder. New inspiration will
without fail arise if we vigorously use the power of our imagination. Armed with new inspiration
the participants then struggle together within the muddy pool of their unrefined opinions to
reach a consensus. Throughout the process one will come to realize and revalue the
indispensable role of the other participants as a stepping stone for one’s own growth.
Without any hesitation I can now say that the art of participating in a Socratic dialogue
lies in the ability to contribute to the inquiry with an original opinion and at the same time
distract from all the other involved opinions that stinging bid of new direction that will spark of
new inspiration, which in turn will give birth to a deeper and inspired awareness.
Socratic Dialogue and Inner-Transformation
I had read several introductory explanations before I myself participated in a Socratic
Dialogue, including explanations about the general course of the Socratic Dialogue and
speculations about the benefits that were to be obtained.
Merely reading about it nevertheless left me with a certain amount of doubts and I was
skeptical about whether the Socratic Dialogue in its current form could bring about any fruitful
results in the sense of a human inner transformation.
My doubts for the most part were based on conclusions I had formulated in a previous
analysis of Plato’s dialogue “Meno”1). There I had stated that Socratic “dialectic” requires the
participation of not only ones rational faculty but demands an involvement of the total human
being. I explained there the way in which Socratic “irony” or “stinging” induces the interlocutor
to establish a personal and emotional involvement with the direct matter that is under inquiry.
An inquiry about “Virtue” in a Socratic sense does not aim at the formulation of a definite
and everlasting true definition. The essence of the matter under inquiry can be pointed at (with
the help of a bid of divine inspiration) but Meno’s question “what is Virtue?” cannot be
formulated in written word or speech. For if we could, “Knowledge” would be teachable and there
would be no need for Socratic “recollection”.
Then why are we encouraged to inquire in the first place, if all inquiry is doomed to fail its
target? Is there something more worthy for us to gain in the process than only a certain end
definition? For Socrates it is the painstaking efforts of the interlocutor to continue the inquiry,
the battle against his/her fear and resentment in the face of acknowledging ignorance. Self-pride
and arrogance being over won giving place to doubt and wonder. The effort of questioning and
answering ones soul, giving birth to insight with which one can further the inquiry. All these and
more are signs of the internalization of “Virtue” in ones own behavior. And that is precisely what
I wish to see realized within the current “Socratic Dialogue” as well. The Socratic Dialogue
cannot serve as a safeguard for intellectual word-play in which we can hide ourselves behind
facades of self content opinions. What we aim for is more than just a revolution within our
operating conceptual framework. For if the Socratic Dialogue truly induces progress towards a
more philosophical attitude then we can expect that the participants are more likely to be
challenged to reflect upon their character limitations than on any form of rational inability. In
the end it is the total sum of the combined original imaginative powers throughout the course of
the Socratic Dialogue that will create the favorable condition for each participant to experience
in his/her own way a victorious sense of self-growth and delight.
The general course of the Socratic Dialogue
Let me now give a brief outline of the characteristics of the general course of the Socratic
Dialogue. And comment on my personal astonishments, embarrassments and enlightening
moments while participating in a Socratic Dialogue myself.
The Socratic Dialogue starts with the formulation of a philosophical question confirm to
the interests of the participants in a given group. This question may vary in many ways, though
it should be a question of a general nature that can be reasoned upon based on daily life
To give a practical example, “When is keeping silent better than talking” was the question
under inquiry when I participated in my first Socratic Dialogue at an International Conference.
Due to time limitations at that given occasion, this question among others was decided for us
beforehand. All participants of the group showed to have a certain affinity with the question and
6 of the 14 participants in the group had prepared an example of a daily experience in which the
problem “When is keeping silent better than talking” had actually appeared.
One after the other each example was carefully taken under consideration and a detailed
report of the particulars of each experience was written down on paper sheets by the facilitator.
Having worked through all experiences carefully and in a satisfying way (this process alone
already takes up a lot of time if done thoroughly) we conducted a final round of selecting ‘one’
example among the six for our further inquiry.2) In our group the following example was chosen
Miss. X was on holiday abroad with her sister. After a long day of
shopping and sight seeing they decided to eat somewhere in a small and
quiet restaurant away from the stress of the big city. Being sisters they
always openly talked about all kind of subjects. Looking around the
restaurant Miss. X’s eye fell on a couple somewhere in the back of the
restaurant, having dinner not conversing a single word to each other.
Miss. X’s immediate reflex (being a deliberate single woman) was to speak
out to her sister “look at that couple over there, is it not terribly boring to
have to eat with the same man every day?” But before the fist word left
her mouth she swallowed it all back in, as she realized at that moment
Not one of the participants had any problems imagining themselves in the same situation,
all was clear and simply explained. This does not mean though that everyone would have reacted
similar under the same circumstance. The next step was to gather relevant side-information
including information about the general character of Miss X relationship to her Sister and other
details explaining for her motives. (This part of the Socratic Dialogue can become very
confronting and personal on the part of the example giver and one has to be willing to share ones
experience with the others in full honesty and debt). Throughout the process of being questioned,
the example giver might unexpectedly recognize certain self-confronting motives behind his/her
Now that most information about our example is formulated and has become a common
frame of reference we continue with the next step, that of formulating a ‘core statement’. At this
stage we don’t need to focus on all gathered details, we should rather concentrate only on
relevant information regarding our starting question. In other words, ‘where in the example do
we see our problem most directly reflected?’ or ‘what is it in the example that fundamentally
Formulating the ‘core statement’ is not as easy as its sounds and it can take up a lot of
time.4) We all tend to reason from a different kind of angle and concept, being one in a large
group one might feel uncomfortable in making to many concessions on the way to consensus. To
avoid having the process turned towards a deadlock because of this, we start to openly question
each other in order to uncover the various concepts behind the formulations of the ‘core
The next step is to make this presupposed concept explicit in terms of
conditions, criteria, and rules […] one could say: we are looking for the
premises on the basis of which we can conclude the core statement.5)
This movement of going back again towards the starting question in formulating the core
statement is called ‘regressive abstraction’.6)
The last step left in the course of the Socratic Dialogue is a ‘test-round’ in which the
previously formulated core statement has to prove its validity in related examples (new examples
or the examples from the other participants at the every beginning) as well. Marinoff writes
This is the only point in the Socratic Dialogue where hypothetical
situations are allowed. If you can contradict the definition, you refine it
Although in practice this point in the Socratic Dialogue is hardly ever reached by any
group (due to time limitations). I nevertheless imagine this stage to be very important and
challenging for several reasons. After the hard labor of reaching consensus in the group
concerning the ‘answer’ to the starting question, we enter what I call a ‘danger-zone’ because it is
the stage in which we are most likely to leave the fertile soil of philosophical inquiry. It’s when
we reach the (temporary) limits of our imaginative power and emotional endurance that a
yarning for stability and clarity about a reached end result intervenes. What we should not miss
to realize when this happens, (as I mentioned in the very beginning of this paper) is that any
euphoric yarning for definite and everlasting definitions is rooted within illusion. A philosophical
way of life is marked by willingness and courage to reexamine, reformulate and even refute
previously well reached conclusions in order to further the process of an ongoing inquiry in quest
of deeper understanding. Our present form of Socratic Dialogue like so many of the historic
‘Platonic written dialogues’ is by its very nature destined to end ‘Aporetic’, that is to say open
ended leaving the participants with a slight sense of bewilderment. This bewilderment though,
cannot scare off any participant with a true inner-motivated philosophical attitude; always keen
and ready to start a new inquiry at any given moment within any given group of participants.
Since I am not yet trained as a facilitator I can only describe my astonishment at seeing
and experiencing them at work. Being familiar with fairly common teaching settings,8) the
contrast with the role of the Socratic Dialogue facilitator struck me with a sense of delight. I
even want to go so far as to say that the Socratic Dialogue facilitator could function as a good
‘role model’ for teachers at work in public education who are aiming for educational reform. Let
me now explain in more detail why I think this is the case.
The most difficult part of being a Socratic Dialogue facilitator lies in the ability to act
‘transparent’. That is to say, not to color the group of participants with any of his/her own
opinions. The group has to be guided by the facilitator in such a way, that the participants
themselves will take the full responsibility for bringing out suggestions, answers and guiding
principles along which the Socratic Dialogue can creatively and colorfully unfold itself.9)
The fact that the facilitator should have a ‘transparent’ role does not mean he/she has no
strong presents during the course of the dialogue. In the contrary the facilitator is under
constant treat and battle of being pulled back into the accustomed school teacher’s role.
Inexperienced participants in Socratic Dialogue might constantly expect from the facilitator that
he/she skillfully and smoothly guides the group away from confusion, presenting easily digestible
directions and portions of instant-knowledge. The fact that the facilitator deliberately has to
‘bounce back’ the responsibility for solving friction and stagnation to the participants themselves
One way in which the facilitator can help to bring clarity within the process (without
oppressing his/her own opinion) is, by having the participants regularly reformulate each other’s
statements. Contradictions can so be easily traced and new refinements can be written down on
sheets of paper by the facilitator on request (Let me remind that throughout the whole process
the facilitator continuously writes down every detail on paper-sheets and makes frequent
corrections). Reformulating each other’s statements also helps clarifying whether a given
participant’s personal opinion is truly contributory (or not) to the direction in which the
group-process is heading at that given moment. Opinions based on sudden personal inspiration
can easily and fairly unaware lead the group-process away from its original aim.10)
It is important to reemphasize at this point that all events of the Socratic Dialogue are
centered on an evolving ‘group-process’. Individual strong opinions form important
steppingstones but personal opinions are useless as such if they do not directly benefit the group
Perhaps to me, this new sense of ‘group-awareness’ was the most challenging factor within
the whole process of the Socratic Dialogue. Maybe due to an overly enthusiastic character, I
constantly let the process astray by my seemingly creative and imaginative new suggestions.
After realizing that it disturbed more than it contributed the group, I had to constantly guard
myself to ‘shut up’. Frustrated at first because I felt really inspired and enthusiastic while
uttering my thoughts, I later felt rather embarrassed about my own tendency. I realized that I
had to allow myself to be a part of a larger and more meaningful group dynamic.
During the evaluation round I formulated this personal revelation as follows, “What struck
me is that it can be the right moment for me to speak but the wrong moment for the group to
hear”. Quite amused I was reminded by one participant that my struggles to ‘shut up’ were well
in tune with the starting question of our Socratic Dialogue namely, “When is keeping silent
While going through my own ‘self-confronting’ experience, I noticed that other participants
as well were challenging something very different from me at the same time. To give an example,
among the participants that were not yet familiar with the Socratic Dialogue was a married
couple who both had worked in regular education. I noticed from the beginning that especially
the man was not feeling comfortable with the, at first loose and in a sense chaotic start of the
dialogue.11) I must admit that our group was an extraordinary mix of not only participants of all
kinds of nationalities (being held at an International Conference) but among us were at least
four well trained Socratic Dialogue facilitators as well as a handful of still inexperienced
participants. Of course this situation made our Socratic Dialogue rather interesting but not less
The well-trained facilitators that now participated as fellow members of the dialogue
powerfully contributed to the process they were already well acquainted with. While stimulating
the still unease new comers to actively contribute to the process with original and imaginative
thinking, they also boldly intervened when the process was about to wonder of astray from its
Being a newcomer one has basically no idea what to expect and how to contribute in a way
that is truly conform to the intentions of the Socratic Dialogue. This fact led to several emotional
confrontations among the participants. Especially the male part of the above mentioned couple
let’s fictionally call him Peter for the moment, showed his annoyance by refraining from further
active participation, ignoring most of the process while trying to hold back his anger. All signs of
discomfort were clearly readable from his face and this worried me. I put up my arms crossed in
front of my face as a sign to the other group members that I was applying for what is called a
‘Meta-Dialogue’.12) I wanted Peter to have the opportunity to talk about how he felt so that he
could once again actively contribute to the process.
For Peter and all the rest of us, it was not clear what exactly had led to this situation. A
few instants in which Peter’s suggestion was boldly replied or not valued enough were recalled
and all participants had the time to reflect on their way of giving responds or comments to
I concluded for myself that within the process of the Socratic Dialogue an underlying
feeling of goodwill towards each other is very important.14) At last most of Peter’s discontent
resolved but the Meta-Dialogue had brought about another challenging factor to the stage,
participating as a couple makes self-confrontations double confronting; feeling the need of always
having to support or back-up each others opinions out of a sort of loyalty towards each other. “Let
her (his wife) speak” or “she can think for herself you know” where often heard remarks from the
I would like to finish this paper with a few words about the expected benefits of Socratic
Living in Japan myself it is not too difficult to see striking differences between the
communication skills of Japanese people and that of people of Western traditions. Needless to say,
both traditions the East as well as the West possesses valuable aspects that can enrich the
As a Dutch being raised in a very open and multi-colored society one’s personal strong
opinion seems all that counts for. On the other hand ‘courtesy’ towards one’s superior dictates
most rules for communication in Japan and strong personal opinion here might stand in the way
of ‘the efficiency of obedience’. Nevertheless, living at the rise of a new century we are all faced
with the challenge of constructing new traditions and cultures that foster harmonious
cooperation between people of all kind of backgrounds. It is precisely here that I see an
important role for the Socratic Dialogue in Japan.
The fast rise of modern (western) culture in Japan opened up a new storehouse of
opportunities but not without risks. Continuous deep-rooted reflection and independent
reasoning is needed for its people to recognize, ‘what modern society wants from them’, and ‘who
they themselves think to be’. Without self- reflection people will start to float, dragged along in a
stream in which they cannot longer recognize themselves. Van Rossum16) therefore well defines
Socratic Dialogue as an exercise in ‘phronesis’.17) Rejecting blunt and surface level prejudgments,
aiming at sharp and detailed perception that sees through to the core of the matter.
Drop-out due to mental distress and disorientation will prevail in a society that does not lent
support in the need to adjust to changes in a creative and personal way. This kind of adjustment
without doubt acquires original and imaginative thinking, for the adjustment we aim at is
besides active and voluntary, one that pertains to the entire self. Harmonizing the various
elements of our being, going beyond mere passive adjustment to external changes in our
The connection between imagination and the harmonizing of the self is
closer than is usually thought. The idea of a whole, whether of the whole
personal being or of the world, is an imaginative, not a literal, idea. The
limited world of our observation and reflection becomes the universe only
Socratic Dialogue in the long run, might help to resolve culturally imbedded causes of
corruption and transform cultivated (blind) obedience into creative and reflective cooperation.
But maybe first of all and in my opinion of most importance is the immediate role that the
Socratic Dialogue can play in encouraging Japan’s further ‘female emancipation’.
1Jansen. S, “Dialectic; a means for inner-transformation” Master thesis Soka University, Tokyo, 2002. 2 The best example is often the one that is clear and simple, in which each participant easily can recognize the significance of the starting question and without difficulty can place him/herself in the given situation. 3 SFCP/PPA 4th International Conference Newman College, Birmingham, 28th July-3rd August. 2002. 4 During my first one and a half-day of Socratic Dialogue we never reached the point of formulating a ‘core statement’. Under pressure of a time limit the process up until that moment was being evaluated. Having worked through only half of the process of the Socratic Dialogue it nevertheless had given rise to enough interesting and confronting situations to satisfy all participants. 5 Boele Dries, “The benefits of a Socratic dialogue Or: Which Results Can We Promise?”, INQUIRY: Critical Thinking Across the Disciplines (p.51) 6 Ibid. 7 Marinoff Lou, Plato not Prozac. Harper Collins Publishers Inc. New York, 2000 (p. 264) 8 In which any given ‘good’ teacher is supposed to keep control over his/her pupils and solemnly directs the course of the class. 9 I have to note here that it is important that the facilitator at any given new stage within the Socratic Dialogue ‘technically’ explains the aim and procedure of that particular stage, of cause this is of less importance when working with well experienced participants. 10 Remember that all the different stages in the Socratic Dialogue have to be followed in a relatively fixed order (like previously described). 11 The participants themselves have to struggle together to direct the dialogue. Most of us are not familiar with this kind of procedure and among the ones that get annoyed by it most easily are participants who feel secure within a strict and orderly guided process in which they are more or less an passive observer. 12 At any given moment in the Socratic Dialogue one can stop the process temporary for a sort of ‘time-out’ in which you can discuss any emotional or personal feeling about the process so far. 13 I cannot help but notice once more some striking similarities between Plato’s ‘Meno’, who struggled with his character weakness of being overly self content about his sophisticated knowledge and most of the new comers including me, who seemed equally handicapped in the face of a philosophical inquiry. For not only do we tent to show of our knowledge only to reconfirm our own content with it, we seem to have lost the ability to ‘doubt’ altogether. 14 Even in the case of Socrates when using his famous stinging irony it was nevertheless imbedded in goodwill towards his interlocutors.
15 Up until today only at Osaka University efforts have been made to establish a faculty under the name of clinical philosophy. 16 Van Rossum Kristof, “Horsels op een paard- het socratisch gesprek in het vormingswerk”. Vorming jaargang 16 nr.3,februari 2001.(p.179) 17 Which centers on perception and experience rather than on the transmission of theoretical concepts. 18 Dewey John, A common faith. Yale University Press. 1934, (p.18)
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